Dreamtime Perenties: Australia's Enormous Varanus Giganteus on the Prowl

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By Derdriu

Perentie in Perth Zoo, Western Australia
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Perentie in Perth Zoo, Western Australia
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Varanus giganteus is native to Australia, where it is commonly known as perentie. The common name is adopted from aboriginal languages of the northeastern part of the State of South Australia in south central Australia. There Varanus giganteus is known as pirrhinti by the Diyari tribe and as pirrinti by the Arabana.

The genus Varanus comprises over fifty species with a prehistoric distribution evinced by varanid fossils on all continents except Antarctica and South America. In the New World, fossils of varanids are present in North America. The presence of a venomous sister group, Helodermatids (genus Heloderma), occurs natively in Central and North America, stretching from the southwestern United States south to Guatemala. A well-known member of this relative is the Gila monster (Heloderma suspectum), which is native to the southwestern United States and the northwestern Mexican state of Sonora and which has protected status in Arizona and Nevada.

Varanids are presently found throughout Africa, Asia, and Australia. In fact, twenty-four species of Varanus have been identified as endemic (Greek: ἐν, en, “in” + δῆμος, demos, “people, district”) to Australia because their specific geographic range is found only there, which "to a very large extent. . .is a land of lizards," particularly in the Red Sands of Western Australia's Great Victoria Desert with its unequalled reptilian diversity (Hedley Herbert Finlayson, The Red Centre). Fossil evidence places the existence of varanids as far back as 90 million years ago, and the oldest known Varanus fossil in Australia dates about 23 million years ago to the Early Miocene Period (Greek: μείων, meiōn, “less” + καινός, kainos, “new”) . One of perenties' relatives, Varanus priscus, with total length variously estimated between 20 to 32 feet (6 to 10 meters) and weight of over 1,322 pounds (600 kilograms), inhabited eastern Australia, roaming from the southern coast near Melbourne in the southeastern state of Victoria all the way up north to Queensland's Cape York Peninsula, and leaving fossil reminders of its existence before its probable extinction about 30,000 to 40,000 years ago in the late Pleistocene (Greek: πλεῖστος, pleistos, "most" + καινός, kainos, "new") Epoch.

The point of origin for the varanid diaspora has not been conclusively determined. Speculation focuses on Africa, Asia, and possibly, though seemingly unlikely, Australia.

Australians refer to varanids of all sizes as "goanna," which is thought to be a corruption of iguana, which actually is a lizard native to Central and South America and the Caribbean.

"Distribution of the Perentie"

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Distribution

Its distribution ranges throughout arid regions banding from northwestern New South Wales to the west coast. Perenties favor Northern Territory, Queensland, South Australia, and Western Australia as well as many islands off the west coast, especially on Barrow Island.

Perentie on Barrow Island
Perentie on Barrow Island
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Habitat

Perenties prefer desert regions intersected by rocky terrain with deep crevices or caves for burrowing. Nevertheless, they also inhabit grasslands and shrublands without rocky outcrops as well as sandy flatlands. Although perenties are terrestrial (Latin: terrestris, "earthly" [from terra, "earth"]) lizards, they have been observed avoiding human interaction by taking refuge in nearby trees in the absence of any other viable escape route!

Shelter

Perenties prefer to seek shelter in caves and crevices. In the absence of exposed rock, they use their powerful front legs and claws to dig burrows or to appropriate existent tunnels. For instance, on Barrow Island in Western Australia, perenties preempt underground homes dug by boodies, or burrowing bettongs (Bettongia lesueur), a small marsupial relative of kangaroos averaging about 15 inches (40 centimeters) in length.

Riesenwaran im Red Center, Australien (Perentie in Red Centre, Australia)
Riesenwaran im Red Center, Australien (Perentie in Red Centre, Australia)
Source: Masteraah (CC BY-SA 2.0)

Perentie size

As the largest lizard in Australia, Varanus giganteus is characterized by length at both ends: a long neck sleekly flows into a robust body, which ends in a long, tapering tail. Varanus giganteus adult males have an average total length, from the tip of the nose to the tip of the tail, of around 5.2 feet (1.6 meters). Nevertheless, maximum total lengths have been recorded that range from 6.5 to 8.2 feet (2 to 2.5 meters). Females usually have shorter lengths than males. The total length of captive-born perentie hatchlings averages about 1.2 feet (0.37 meters).

The tail usually accounts for one-and-one-fifth (1.20) to one-and-one-half (1.5) of the snout-to-vent length (SVL), a standard measurement of body length in lizards that is demarcated at one end by the snout (tip of the nose) and at the other end by the cloaca (Latin: cloaca, "sewer, drain [from cluere, "to cleanse"]) or vent, which is the posterior vent that is the opening for the digestive, reproductive, and urinary tracts.

An average weight of almost 10 pounds (4.46 kilograms) has been reported from a range of 0.33 to 25.7 pounds (0.15 to 11.7 kilograms). Maximum adult weights in excess of 38 pounds (17.24 kilograms) have been recorded. The weight of captive-born perentie hatchlings averages about 0.09 pounds (40 grams).

Closeup of head of perentie, in the wild near 17-Mile Quobba Station, on the coast about 100m from Canarvon, West Australia

Closeup of head of perentie, in the wild near 17-Mile Quobba Station, on the coast about 100m from Canarvon, West Australia
Closeup of head of perentie, in the wild near 17-Mile Quobba Station, on the coast about 100m from Canarvon, West Australia
Source: Richahel/Wikimedia (Public Domain

Coloring

Adult dorsal (Latin: dorsalis, "of or relating to the back") coloring, that is, on the upper side or back, is a stippled pattern of rows of cream or yellow spots with dark brown to black centers and edges. Undersides are whitish.

Diet

In their food forages, perenties are willing to wander at length over open plains and on the sparsely arbored expanses of Australia's gibber (rocky rubble or fragments) plains with their loose, variable-sized rocks and stones. Perenties have keen senses that enable them to be superb trackers. As they flick their highly sensitive forked tongues in and out of their mouths, they are extracting, from the air and the landscape, chemicals, which are translated, as the tongue withdraws briefly into its sheath, into meaningful information for its brain by Jacobson's organ, a olfactory sense organ contained within two pits on the roof of its mouth. Moreover, their tracking abilities extend below ground as well. Thus, perentie prey have great difficulty in eluding this predator.

Perenties, especially juveniles, are known to devour centipedes (class Chilopoda anthropods), grasshoppers (suborder Caelifera insects), and spiders (order Araneae arthropods). Nevertheless, the typical adult perentie diet is almost exclusively carnivorous. Dietary staples include birds, eggs (especially turtle), and small marsupials (i.e., wallabies [family Macropodidae]). Perenties have also added to their diet the European rabbit (Oryctolagus cuniculus), which were first introduced into Australia in 1859 by pioneer settler Thomas Austin at his 29,000 acre (12,000 hectare) estate, Barwon Park, in Winchelsea in the state of Victoria.

Size of prey does not intimidate perenties. Basically, any creature that Varanus giganteus can overpower serves as prey. They also feed on carrion, including road-killed kangaroos. Generally, perenties swallow their victims whole. If their prey is too large to be swallowed whole, perenties use their powerful front legs and claws to dismember them into consumable pieces. In this manner they have been observed consuming large kangaroos (family Macropodidae).

Perenties also devour snakes (suborder Serpentes). Herpetologist Gavin Bedford of Darwin in Australia's Northern Territory reported that he radiotracked a central carpet python (Morelia bredli), a non-venomous Australian native typically over 6.5 feet (2 meters) in length, to an old rabbit burrow near the Alice Springs airport, which revealed, when dug open, a male perentie of 5.9 feet (1.8 meters). The perentie disgorged a large, mulga snake (Pseudechis australis), which is the second longest snake in Australia, with a length ranging from 8.2 to 9.8 feet (2.5 to 3 meters). Dr. Bedford cut the venomous snake's carcass open to find the dead carpet python inside.

Mealtime: Perenties walking around with tails hanging out of their mouths

Lizards, however, are a major food source. Perenties favor large and dwarf goannas and exhibit cannibalism by devouring weaker members of their own species. Documented cannibalism include the observation of a 4.9 foot (1.5 meters) perentie swallowing most of a 3.9 feet (1.2 meters) perentie and then walking around with all 1.5 feet (0.5 meters) of the victim's tail hanging out of its mouth. In another instance, a juvenile perentie, about 2 feet (0.6 meters) in length, ingested the body of an agamid lizard of nearly its same length, a long-nosed water dragon (Lophognathus longirostris), about 1.6 feet (0.5 meters) long, and the juvenile was seen with the majority of the victim's tail trailing out of its mouth for the next 24 hours.

Varanus giganteus vs. Tachyglossus aculeatus (Short-beaked echidna/Spiny anteater)
Varanus giganteus vs. Tachyglossus aculeatus (Short-beaked echidna/Spiny anteater)
Source: Darren Naish ScienceBlog: Andreas Kirschner et al.'s Faszination Warane (1996)

Covered like porcupines with sharp spiny quills, spiny anteaters, also known commonly as echidnas (family Tachyglossidae), are one of the few mammals that generally does not cringe or cower at a perentie encounter. Any perentie that does succeed in swallowing an overpowered echidna in all likelihood lives just long enough to regret the food choice because the echidna's quills fatally perforate the perentie's innards in the course of being ingested. Such encounters are rare but have been documented post-mortem. The question remains whether the consumption was attempted on carrion or on live prey. Either way, fatality ensues regardless of the motivation, be it in desperation or in a rare flash of lack of intelligence.

Breeding

About four weeks elapses between mating and deposition of about five to eleven eggs into a burrow, which occurs in late summer. With a long incubation period averaging at about 219 days (a little over seven months), the eggs overwinter and hatch in the next spring or summer.

Hibernation and thermoregulation

As an ectotherm (Greek: εκτός, ektós, "outside" + θερμός, thermós, "hot"), perenties regulate their body temperature by absorbing heat from the external environment. Their activity patterns reflect seasonal and environmental conditions, such as temperature. During the Australian winter in June, maximum activity occurs during warmest times of the day, whereas in summer (December to February) major activities coincide with cooler times of the day. Perenties hibernate during the coldest months, from May to August.

Because they do not generate their own sustained body heat, perenties have ongoing concerns with thermoregulation, whereby they often shuttle sensitively between sun and shade. When the earth's surface sizzles, perenties may sink into the cool depths of underground burrows or caves or even seek breezes or strong winds by climbing shrubs or trees. Basking is a familiar reptilian posture that is reminiscent of human sunbathing, only perenties are getting warm rather than tanned.

Maintaining the proper body temperature has also been known to trouble several female perenties at bedtime. One female scoured half a dozen crevices before settling in for the night. Another thought that she was retiring for the night but when her body temperature began rapidly decreasing, she evacuated the burrow and located a rocky crevice in which her temperature stabilized.

Typical tripoding pose, in the wild near 17-Mile Quobba Station, on the coast about 100m from Canarvon, West Australia
Typical tripoding pose, in the wild near 17-Mile Quobba Station, on the coast about 100m from Canarvon, West Australia
Source: Richahel/Wikimedia (Public Domain)

Tripoding: Surveying the world while basking

A typical posture is the triangular position favored by quadrupeds called tripoding in which a perentie settles back on its tail and haunches while its upper body is upraised and supported by the full length of its front legs. In this posture, perenties may crane their necks for an even better view of their surroundings. Remaining in this position, they also enjoy the sun's warmth. This favorite varanid posture accounts for the common name for this genus, monitor (Latin: monere, "to warn") lizards, in recognition of their predilection for regularly surveying and monitoring their domain.

"The Perentie," Sir David Attenborough's Life in Cold Blood BBC documentary (globalzoo, YouTube)

Ploys for disengaging unwelcome attention: From spacing out to intimidating to evading

Varanus giganteus resorts to various ploys for dissuading unwelcome or unexpected approachers. They display uninterested behavior by staring into space, acting as though they are unaware of the visitor's presence. Sometimes perenties crouch low to the ground, almost as though they are flattening themselves into the earth. Other times, if feeling provoked, they may choose to rise up pugnaciously on their hind legs, towering over the unwanted guest, and hissing. An anecdotal, though not common, reaction involves intentionally or unintentionally maiming through lashing out with its mighty tail; thus, a dog's forelegs were alleged to have been broken, and a native woman was felled to the ground.

Or perenties may engage in the kinesthetic reaction of running away, an agile, graceful, and highly successful choice. Perenties are endurance runners as, unlike most lizards, they are able to run continuously and lengthily. Because the anatomy of most lizards requires them to use the same muscles both for inflating their lungs and for moving, they are not efficient or effective long-distance runners. On the contrary, Varanus lizards are endowed with large, muscular throats which function like bellows by pumping air into their lungs. In this way, typical of the Varanus genus, gular (Latin: gula, "throat") pumping does not interfere with running and in fact enhances perentie swiftness, enabling them to attain speeds of over 20 miles (32 kilometers) per hour.

Varanid swiftness is further sustained by raising their forelimbs from the ground to run bipedally on their back legs. Greg Fyfe, while a ranger at Uluṟu-Kata Tjuṯa National Park, the UNESCO World Heritage natural and cultural site in the lower southwestern portion of the Northern Territory, was quickly outdistanced at Ayers Rock (Uluṟu) by a perentie that switched easily from quadrupedal to bipedal running. Moreover, the perentie did not swerve around obstacles such as fallen branches piled to a height of 3.3 to 6.6 feet (one to two meters). Rather, the perentie plunged directly at the pile,

". . .slid up and over it without slowing down. Maybe the raised and inclined body enabled the perentie to 'ski jump' or toboggan over these obstacles. . ." (Pianka & King, p. 344)

Land Rover Perenties with Special Air Service patrol in Iraq in 2003
Land Rover Perenties with Special Air Service patrol in Iraq in 2003
Source: Australian Department of Defense/Wikimedia

Perentie trucks

The winsome iconic goanna lent its name to the Land Rover Perentie, which was designed under Project Perentie, an official Australian Army study commenced in 1981 with the goal of developing and building 2,500 one-tonne and 400 two-tonne light off-road vehicles. Perenties were produced in 4x4 and 6x6 variants, with an Isuzu 3.9 litre four cylinder diesel engine.

Based on the Land Rover Defender 100, the variants featured various body styles. The six-wheel drive variant has a uniquely Australian design, including a turbo-charged engine and an unusual chassis that incorporates leaf springs with a crossover rocker in the rear suspension for load-sharing.

The 4x4s were first introduced In August 1987. The 6x6s began delivery in March 1989.

The sturdy line has been successfully used in Australia as well as abroad, where 6x6s were utilized in military operations in Iraq from 2003 to 2008 and in Afghanistan beginning in 2001.

"Goanna dreaming perente"

painting by Clifford Possum Tjaplatjarri
painting by Clifford Possum Tjaplatjarri

Dreamtime perentie: Ngintaka in Tjukurpa (The Dreaming)

Perenties have a special, sacred status in indigenous Australian mythology. They are connected with the journey of creation through Tjukurpa, the Dreaming. The Australian landscape abounds in unique features, such as Uluru (Ayers Rock), which are considered to be living vestiges created during the Dreaming as vital reminders of the mythological Spirit Being ancestors of Australia's first human inhabitants.

Goanna dreaming at Yarramai

2000 painting by Clifford Possum Tjaplatjarri (1932-June 21, 2002)
2000 painting by Clifford Possum Tjaplatjarri (1932-June 21, 2002)

Tjukurpa ngaranyi pulingka munu iwara, ankuntja, tjukurpa ankuntja: "This is a story of rocks and tracks"

The Pitjantjatjara, known to themselves as Aṉaŋu or Arnangu ("human being, person"), are indigenous to an area that radiates out from Uluru. One of their totemic Creation Beings is a perentie named Ngintaka, who, during a search for the perfect stone (tjiwa) for grinding wild pigweed (Portulaca oleracea) seeds for making seed cakes (kind of bush bread), created the landscape from his home in a place named Ataramula near the Western Australian border eastwards to Oodnadatta (Arrernte: utnadata, "mulga [Acacia aneura tree] blossom") in the upper mid-northern part of the state of South Australia.

Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, Northern Territory, Australia
Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, Northern Territory, Australia
Source: Matthew Klein (kleinmatt6)/Flickr (CC BY-NC-ND 2.0)

This area created by Perentie Man (wati ngintaka) is known as Angatja, which, with its location in the Mann Range near the border with the state of Western Australian, is one of the northernmost localities in the state of South Australia. Driving distance to Angatja from Uluru (Ayers Rock) is about four hours. Situated around 2,300 feet (700 meters) above sea level, Angatja is also one of the higher localities in South Australia. Angatja is about 783 miles (1,260 kilometers) northwest of South Australia's coastal capital city, Adelaide. The Mann Range is part of the Central Ranges, which also comprise Petermann and Musgrave Ranges. These mountains and hills wind through contiguous borders of the Northern Territory with the states of South Australia and Western Australia. This rugged area, surrounded by Quaternary (less than 10 million years ago) red alluvial sand plains, is the heartland of Pitjantjatjara Lands.

Multitjulu, Red Centre, Uluru, Northern Territories
Multitjulu, Red Centre, Uluru, Northern Territories
Source: Dean Ayres/Flickr (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)

Mountains arose wherever Ngintaka rested, and salt lakes were created wherever his tail scraped the ground. Vegetation, especially kaltu-kaltu or native millet (Panicum decompositum), highly treasured for seed cakes, and food plants (mayi) and actual seeds (uninypa), as well as numerous perenties, streamed out of Ngintaka's mouth.

Ngintaka's landmarks and plants are sacred legacies which were entrusted through the Dreaming to indigenous Australians for caretaking and immortalizing in ritualistic appreciation of the wavering boundaries between Dreamtime and real time.

Perth Zoo, Western Australia
Perth Zoo, Western Australia
Source: Helenabella/Wikimedia (CC BY-SA 3.0)

Forever perenties

From its prehistoric role in Australia's creation myths to its modern cachet as innovative, reliable, and versatile off-road vehicles of uniquely Australian design, Varanus giganteus has timeless associations with its native land. In its comfortable prowl through its uniquely Australian domain, Varanus giganteus links past with present and mythological time with so-called real time. Perhaps it is strong evidence of Varanus giganteus' inherent harmony with its ecosystem that this endearing, enduring species has been, and continues to be, inextricably intertwined with the sense of place that is evoked within Australians for their decidedly unique landscape.

"Built For The Kill - Island - Perentie" (Paleoworld101, YouTube)

Source: ophiophagus_three/Photobucket

Acknowledgment

My special thanks to talented photographers/concerned organizations who make their fine images available on the internet:

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This hub is dedicated to the memory of renowned Pintupi artist Clifford Possum Tjaplatjarri (1932-June 21, 2002).

Perentie tracks, Leichhardt Falls, Queensland
Perentie tracks, Leichhardt Falls, Queensland
Source: dandjr/Photobucket

Sources Consulted

Bennett, Daniel. A Little Book of Monitor Lizards. Viper Press, 1995.

Bosnak, Robert. Tracks in the Wilderness of Dreaming. New York: Delacorte Press, 1996.

Finlayson, Hedley Herbert. The Red Centre. London: Angus & Robertson, 1943.

Flood, Josephine. Archaeology of the Dreamtime. Honolulu: University of Hawaii Press, 1983.

Flood, Josephine. "Linkage between rock-art and landscape in Aboriginal Australia" (pp. 182-200). In: Christopher Chippindale and George Nash, eds., The Figured Landscapes of Rock-Art: Looking at Pictures in Place. Port Melbourne: Cambridge University Press, 2004.

Jauncey, Dorothy. Bardi Grubs and Frog Cakes: South Australian Words. Melbourne: Oxford University Press, 2004.

King, Dennis, and Brian Green. Goannas: The Biology of Varanid Lizards. 2nd ed. Australian Natural History Series. Sydney: University of New South Wales, 1999.

Kirschner, Andreas, Thomas Müller, and Hermann Seufert. Faszination Warane: Pflege und Zucht. Rheinstetten: Kirschner & Seufer Verlag, 1996.

Naish, Darren. "Perentie tries to swallow echidna. Echidna too spiky. Perentie gets horribly injured. Dies." ScienceBlogs: Tetrapod Zoology. December 4, 2009. (Last accessed June 6, 2011)

Pianka, Eric R. Ecology and natural history of desert lizards: analyses of the ecological niche and community structure. Princeton NJ: Princeton University Press, 1986

Pianka, Eric R. The Lizard Man Speaks. Austin: University of Texas Press, 1994.

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Somerville, Margaret. Body Landscape Journals. North Melbourne: Spinifex Press, 1999.

Copyright

Copyright Monday, June 6, 2011 by Derdriu

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davenmidtown Level 7 Commenter 10 months ago

I wish more Hubbers would put this much detail in to their hubs. This was really beautiful written and interesting to read. I appreciate the extensive use of vocabulary. This hub should serve as an example of how to use citations correctly. This hub should also serve as inspiration to others who would like to write articles about topics that are difficult to find local information about. Good job!

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Derdriu Hub Author 10 months ago

davenmidtown: Thank you so much for your complimentary comments! I did have to do A LOT of research for this hub, so I appreciate your recognition of the value of searching for info that isn't local. It's a big world, and I like to remind myself that there's more to life than my little spot on the planet. And your appreciation of correct citations: that is one of the nicest compliments ever! Thank you.

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davenmidtown Level 7 Commenter 10 months ago

The work paid off. This is a great hub. I have read many of your hubs and what is consistent throughout all of your hubs that I have read is that you have a great command of the English language. I do not hand out complements very often but you have impressed me. It was nice to read this hub because it was put together with thought. I enjoyed the subtle way that you connected the subject to the location by showing how such a creature impacted the people around it.

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Derdriu Hub Author 10 months ago

davenmidtown: I really appreciate your insightful comments, and the compliment about "a great command of the English language" just really touches my heart. I am thankful to my fantastic father (who passed away, sadly, when I was 10) for teaching me Latin at a young age which made me sensitive to nuances in English.

I also appreciate that you understand the connection between perenties and their Australian landscape---it's why I wrote this hub.

I love writing hubs because I write about what I love, but this hub --- along with about half a dozen others plus two which I wrote just recently --- is dear to me, perhaps because it required so much effort, and the efforts took me on an immeasurably rewarding journey of discovery.

I sensed in your hub on bermuda grass that you have high standards. Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts on my hubs, and especially on this dear hub, which I feared had fallen through the cracks! :-)

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davenmidtown Level 7 Commenter 10 months ago

I think language is a critical part of our humanity. I recently read Bram Stokers Dracula again. I found myself distracted from the story because the book was so wonderfully written, not just in parts, but as a complete book. Writing well should always be a goal of writers.

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Derdriu Hub Author 10 months ago

davenmidtown: I've been thinking about your comment about language as "a critical part of our humanity," and I agree. In fact, the reverse is true: language is critical in displaying inhumanity, as in abusive language.

Writing well certainly seems to be your goal. I know that it's mine, and I enjoy the challenge of viewing writing as more than words plopped down on paper or on a screen.

I don't recall reading Bram Stoker's Dracula. I've added it to my reading list, hopefully in August!

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Greensleeves Hubs Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

Certainly, Derdriu, this is one of my favourites of all your pages.

Firstly, I like reptiles and this comprehensive wide-ranging discussion of Varanus giganteus gives one pretty much all the facts one could wish for on this species. As usual you cover the whole range of information about this animal including its role in mythology, and its palaeontological history. And all well-referenced too.

Secondly, the photos chosen are superb. All the lizard photos are perfectly clear and attractive, but I also really like that picture of Uluru with the pool in the foreground, as the composition and lighting is so good.

Thirsly, nice to see the video of David Attenborough, a personal TV hero who's regarded as something of a national treasure in Britain for his documentaries, and indeed he is rather more famous here even than his brother Richard, so renowned as a film director and actor. Is he well known in America?

For anyone interested, a similar, slightly smaller species of Varanus - Varanus salvator (a water monitor) - is easily visible and very approachable to within a few feet in Bangkok's Lumpini Park in Thailand, and no doubt in other places in South East Asia too. Well worth seeing when in that part of the world.

Great information, great photos, greatly appreciated and voted up.

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Derdriu Hub Author 3 months ago

Alun, This hub is special to me. It counts among the hubs from the first 3/4 of 2011. Each one during that time span speaks to my most heartfelt intents, interests and realizations.

It is wonderfully amazing how much beauty and clarity can be gleaned from the photographic art which so generously is made available to Internet surfers: Additionally, among the greatest of "moving image" finds indeed is the Attenborough video since I know and respect his work!

Is it possible that you will write a hub on the Varanus salvator of the Lumpini Park environs to Bangkok, Thailand? It undoubtedly will be a fascinating read with lots of spectacularly "pretty pictures"!

Thank you for the visit, the votes, the shared experiences and insights, and the kind observations.

Respectfully, Derdriu

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Greensleeves Hubs Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

Thanks for the reply and query re-Varanus salvator Derdriu. I'd like to do a page using my own photos exclusively about this lizard, but presently don't have enough of my own of the variety and quality shown here. Maybe I'll go back to Thailand this year though, and whenever I go to Bangkok for more than a couple of days, I usually call in at Lumpini Park for a few hours, so maybe I'll take a few more pictures and get some decent ones.

I think on previous occasions I've bemused a few Thais when they've seen me crawling through the grass after a big lizard!! They probably think 'crazy foreigner'!

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davenmidtown Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

I still say this is one of the best hubs ever... it is certainly one of my favorites.

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A.A. Zavala Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Completely fascinating. A treatise that is at home in academic settings as well as the hubs. Outstanding.

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Derdriu Hub Author 3 months ago

Alun, Do you think you could get someone to photograph you crawling through the grass in the wake of the park's resident big lizard? That must be quite a humorous sight and could be part of a hub on particularly hilarious incidents during your travels there and back again.

Thank you for the revisit, Derdriu

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Derdriu Hub Author 3 months ago

Dave, It's great to hear you say the equivalent of what's not to love about the hub and Australia's enormous, prowling varanus giganteus. The photographs really showcase the big lizard as well as the impressive picture-taking capabilities which individuals and organizations so generously share through the Internet.

Thank you for visiting me again, Derdriu

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Derdriu Hub Author 3 months ago

AAZavala, Laudatory comments such as these from such an expert in experimental research as you warm the creative impulses from my heart and the writing centers in my brain. But I must admit that Australia's big lizard is a win-win situation in terms of photography and writing.

Thank you for visiting me as well as for the kind critique of this article so special to me.

Respectfully, Derdriu

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tonymead60 Level 6 Commenter 2 months ago

Derdriu

What a well crafted and interesting hub. I have also read the comments and I agree with all the previous compliments from other writers. You’ve sourced some excellent video and still photography, and my favourite wildlife presenter Sir David A. I had the pleasure of meeting him once, and he is such a pleasant chap, old school gentleman.

I particularly liked the Miltitjulu photo what a strange way the stream over millennia has cut and worn the rock. I suppose the redness indicates high amounts of iron in it.

I really like reptiles, I owned a couple of pet shops at one time and we always had small lizards and snakes. I’ve also had several encounters with much larger ones when travelling in India.

Many thanks for sharing and being a guide and inspiration for all us budding writers.

Regards Tony

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Derdriu Hub Author 2 months ago

Tony, This hub is special to me too. It's always wonderful when a story tells itself in pictures and in words. In this case, it's a story of a fantastic critter in an equally fantastic landscape peopled by fantastic natives and settlers.

Yes, the red is from the iron and iron oxide in the soil. It makes for an unusual look that begs for closer shots and in-person visits.

In terms of amphibians and reptiles, my favorite is the perenties. But I also like salamanders and turtles, generally in small sizes ;-]!

What kind of huge reptiles have you met? Did you meet them in conjunction with "Sir David A"?

Thank you for the visit, the shared insights and experiences, and the kind appreciation. You're such an inspiration!

Respectfully and appreciatively, Derdriu

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tonymead60 Level 6 Commenter 2 months ago

Derdriu,

Australia, is fascinating as a place and spirit.

It is true to say that the Aussie Abos are how we all must have looked at some time as man made his initial journey out of Africa. They have a great understanding of their surroundings living in harmony with what seems to the outsider an extremely harsh environment.

Sir David was a guest on a cruise ship that I was working and I had the pleasure of taking lunch with him one day.

The huge reptiles I came across were in a place called Rantambore in India, crocadiles of the very scary variety. In the water they were just a couple of eyes peeping out quite shy; but when one or two of them beached they were massive, as long as the vehicle we were in. The crocs in that lake grow to extraordinary lengths, because there is an abundance of prey and the lake is just perfect for them to catch it.

I think I mention them in my Tiger hub.

regards, Tony

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Derdriu Hub Author 2 months ago

Tony, It must be quite an adventure to be able to access the aboriginal museum which is available now for aborigine descendants in Australia. Their art is so eloquent and evocative. It seems to reflect to me their strong will to live in the harmony which you reference in your comment.

What an experience to meet Sir David A! Do you remember what you talked about and what you ate?

Alligators and crocodiles indeed can be scary and the bigger the scarier. How big do they get in Rantambore? Isn't it in India that rabbits can be 3+ feet high?

I look forward to reading your tiger hub as I read my way through your stimulating writings.

Respectfully, Derdriu

P.S. Have you seen my favorite Peter Weir movie "The Last Wave" with my favorite Richard Chamberlain?

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tonymead60 Level 6 Commenter 2 months ago

Derdriu

I enjoy the Aussi art, it is so tribal and yet it could be from some modern art movement either. If you have seen one of my favourite films, 'Crocadile Dundee' you can see also the humour and influence of the indiginous people.

this might sound strange, but I have always said that if I won the National Lottery then I would just travel, and the place I would like to make my start would be Ayres Rock, now I know I have to start the journey from whereever I am at the time, you know what I'm getting at.

I love the way you call animals critters, I can almost here your accent through that one word. No offence I mean it is such an American word.

I'll move on before I get into trouble.

the lunch with Sir D, was fish and chips, but it was a very distinguished company, Thomas Cook jnr, a gentleman who had been Lord Mountbatton's batman during the epoch of the handover of India, a colonel in the famous and much respected Ghurka regiment, and a New Yorker who gave flying lessons.

You can imagine that the conversation never stood still and I felt very privalaged to be amongst such company. I did however get to speak to Sir D later on and we spoke of the changes in technology and how natural science had changed drastically over our lifetimes.

Ranthambore was built as a summer palace for one of the Shahs of Rajistan, so I would guess the first either were shipped there, or perhaps there was a river that they damned to make the lake. Now it is a great national park and Tiger reserve. I don't know about the rabbits, but we came across very large crocs all over India.

Not seen the film, I'll look out for it. R.C. I remember him as Dr. Kildare, one of the first hospital dramas we had on TV over here. He's a handsome chap, although I don't suppose you noticed that.

take care, I've not heard from your sis for a few days I'll look her up; she's probably suffering in a library somewhere.

I'm listening to Willie Nelson as we speak.

kind regards.

Tony

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Derdriu Hub Author 2 months ago

Tony, Yes, I've always thought Richard Chamberlain most handsome. He's accomplished, articulate, artistic, good-looking, and intelligent. He has aged very well too.

Respectfully, Derdriu

P.S. Thank you for all the information about the big scary "critters" which can be found in Ranthambore and elsewhere.

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tonymead60 Level 6 Commenter 2 months ago

Derdriu

gosh I thought you were describing me at first.

I've just read a write up of the RC film 'the last wave'. It sounds to be set in Aussie land. I'll see if the library has a copy, because it is expensive on Amazon were I usually buy my DVDs form.

good to see you again.

Tony

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Derdriu Hub Author 2 months ago

Tony, Make sure you pay careful attention to the film. It's based on aborigine beliefs which answer the classic Christian question of whether the earth will be destroyed by fire or water. Richard Chamberlain of course is mesmerizing, both in terms of acting and looks.

Respectfully, Derdriu

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tonymead60 Level 6 Commenter 2 months ago

Derdriu

I did like him in the three musketeers and shogun, he played the parts very well. It must have been tough playing opposite Raquel Welch.

regards Tony

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Derdriu Hub Author 2 months ago

Tony, I disagree. Richard rules!

Respectfully, Derdriu

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Perspycacious Level 7 Commenter 2 months ago

Comprehensive like a masters degree thesis, yet interesting to boot! Up and awesome.

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Derdriu Hub Author 2 months ago

Perspycacious, I like readers to have the facts and the sources to pursue further any of my topics. Additionally, I like readers to evidence my environmentalism in ways which inspire and interest them. So your comments are most welcome.

Thank you for the visit, the votes and the kind comments.

Respectfully and appreciatively, Derdriu

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